you and i sat in that courtroom along with aphrodite and a whole lot of other reporters and there were times that we'd look at each other and go, huh? why are they spending so much time on the phone bills? why did they make this seemingly simple story, this kid was allegedly molested by this man into such a complicated thing i never could figure it out. >> jane, one very important point to respond to aphrodite, throughout the trial, before the trial, after the trial, everybody said, this 13-year-old accuser is in it for the money. >> right. >> unlike jordi chandler, the previous child, he never filed a civil suit before, during, and now even years afterwards. he has never asked for one time. and that was proven to be completely false. >> all right. let's -- >> you know something, jane, wait a minute. >> okay, let me move on. there's so much to cover here. the jackson case, as we all know, we were there, a circus often turning a serious child molestation case into what felt like a las vegas act with jackson as the ringmaster.